Fooling around

Yesterday was "a day" and still winter, today is "b day" and spring*, then we'll have Eastern.... what a week. Time to have some fun, so I decided to create a mailing list to blog test as a first of many creative combinations.

Had to do it with blogger, because wordpress.com doesn't have this feature "yet". BTW, dear automatticers, please let us include javascript & co.

* Spring normally starts on the 21st of March. In a leap year, spring starts on the 20th of March.  So not to forget the beginning of spring in 4 years time, here is a tip:  the olympic summer games always occur in the leap year.   Why?  Next question.

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  1. (1) WordPress.com is a multiuser blogging platform. We cannot access or edit our templates here. If we were allowed to do so then any changes one blogger made to their template would likewise be made to every other blog with the same theme.

    (2) Javascript is not allowed on this multiuser blogging platform for security reaasons. Blogs are served from {name}.wordpress.com. The Wordpress cookie is delivered to any site that ends in wordpress.com. Any Javascript on the page is legitimately allowed to look up cookies that would be sent to the domain it’s served from.

    This means that if you can run Javascript on a hosted Wordpress page, you can retrieve the login cookie from another Wordpress user, and then pass it to an external site. (Generally by creating an image reference that includes the encoded login cookie.)

    This is just a basic part of the underlying technology of the web browser, and it’s required for sites like gmail, Yahoo!, and others to operate.

    There are ways a site can avoid this problem (generally by constantly changing the login cookie data with EVERY response, and invalidating the old ones immediately), but they require more horsepower on the backend than the blogging sites are really able to provide, and there’s still usually a small window of opportunity.

    This is why Livejournal, Wordpress, and most other hosted sites disallow Javascript on their pages. I hope that helps!

    Happy blogging!

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  2. Thanks for that response. I understand and always understood that allowing Javascript is very very tricky. I also understand the rationale behind Automattic decision not to allow it.
    Why not opening a venue that powerusers and developers could explore, for example opening up the widget system? Having more community involvement in establishing, running and maybe even certifying widgets. Once a widget is certified it could not only be used in the sidebar, but also integrated in posts, a bit like YouTube & co videos are...
    I love wordpress.com, but I increasingly think of expanding and exploring beyond wordpress.com, like creativecombinations.

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  3. Thanks again. I am aware of the difference. Technically it might be a fork, though there still are a lot of common threads. Automattic (via it's developers and founders)is contributing to the org project.

    Why not using some successful open source principles to the wordpress.com service? For example simply submitting online a piece of code, having online documentation, what the contracts with Automattic will say, do developers / 3rd party services have to pay in order to offer wordpress.com widgets etc...? What are the criteria for wordpress.com to decide yes/no for a particular widget, are there any guidelines or is it a case by case decision?

    And why not opening those processes (yes, no, technically insufficient) more to the community? Commercial service does not necessarily mean to have intransparent processes.

    I am also asking because I am involved in a project which will produce widgets, though it is too early present something, I am very interested in how this would work with Automattic.

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  4. I think you are missing my point. My point is that you are addressing the question(s) to the wrong target. The correct targets are Matt and Toni. Also, I assume that whatever 3rd party contractual agreements are entered into with Automattic will contain the "non-disclosure" clauses that are common in the business world. And, as such those details will not become "community" property.

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